SAVVY PLAYERS AND US! Maddows guest described smart, savvy players. They get little trouble from us: // link // print // previous // next //
FRIDAY, APRIL 2, 2010
What program was our side watching: We had planned to discuss this fascinating piece about the causes of health care over-spending. But we were stunned by Alex Koppelmans short review, in this mornings Salon, of Sarah Palins Fox special last night.
Koppelmans review is only six paragraphs long. Having read it, we have no idea what program Koppelman watched. Salon readers will be vastly mis- or disinformed by this puzzling passage:
Thats four paragraphs, from a six-graf reviewand its stunningly inaccurate. For ourselves, we didnt notice the height of Palins heelsbut then, we arent a pure liberal. But we did see Palin her present a fascinating, deeply moving pair of segments about Cole Massey, an eleven-year-old child who was born with cerebral palsyand about his parents, and about his deeply-loved service dog. The first, pre-taped segment was thoroughly winning; Palin then conducted a second full segment in which she interviewed all three Masseys, and showcased the skills of Cole Masseys dog. This was brilliant, moving work. Palins full-segment conversation was conducted with all the principal parties; it was anything but awkward. Although Cole Massey uses a wheelchair, Palin was pretty much sitting on a couch with [the Masseys] for an Oprah-style heart-to-heart.
We have no idea what program Koppelman watched. But isnt life in our liberal world grand?
We didnt watch the full program; there were strengths and weaknesses to some of the segments we watched. (Dont worryFoxs production values will only get better.) But reading through the transcript today, we see that the program was very minority-friendly, a bit of clever political work. And Palin interviewed key players in three different stories, including the long segment with all four Masseys.
Koppelmans review is simply astounding. Aint life in our liberal world grand?
SAVVY PLAYERS AND US (permalink): On Wednesday evenings Maddow program, Rachel Maddow conducted a fascinating interview with James Hoggan, author of Climate Cover-Up: The Crusade to Deny Global Warming. Are we liberals the Truly Bright Smart Ones? We thought Hoggan presented fascinating testimony about the way progressive interests get mauled by savvy corporate players and their conservative messaging.
Maddow spoke with Hoggan about Koch Industries, a giant funder of conservative causes and disinformation. Maddow asked about Kochs role in climate change/energy issues. This was the start of Hoggans answer, although he would soon introduce a second topic:
In this statement, Hoggan describes highly effective disinformation-marketing. Average people hear this message about doubt about climate science from a wide variety of sources. Because they hear the message in so many places, the message becomes believable. In this first part of Hoggans answer, Hoggan describes a highly savvy disinformation machinea machine that is simply smarter, and more determined, than any entity on the progressive side. But as he continued, Hoggan expanded his description of the way Koch Industries works. He went way back to the early 1990sand he brought big tobacco in:
Hoggan described very, very carefully thought-out public relations tactics that were used to shift the issues around tobacco off of health issue and onto sound-science issues. These tactics involved more than one large company, working in more than one policy area. For our money, the larger thrust of Hoggans point got lost in the ensuing conversation. But in this next Q-and-A, he stated his point most clearly:
In that exchange, Maddow slightly misstated the point, to the extent that we can parse what she said. The point is not that this sort of activity undermines confidence in the science (of some particular issue). As Hoggan stated, this tactic undermines public confidence in science itself. In effect, Hoggan was describing a decades-long push in which science itself is being turned into a suspect in the publics mindin which citizens are led to view professional scientists in general as a politicized interest group. We have seen this approach in recent months, in the determined demonizing of climate scientists in a few minor, but highly-flogged, flaps.
The target here is science itself, not the particular science of some particular issue.
According to Hoggan, he is describing very, very carefully thought-out public relations tactics. Over time, these tactics undermine the publics confidence in science itself. Average voters hear science and scientists demonized when it comes to tobacco; they hear science and scientists demonized again when it comes to climate. They hear these assaults again and again, from many directions, concerning more than one issue. Soon, scientists become the latest incarnation of those pointy-headed intellectuals George Wallace used to denounce.
Adapting Hoggans language: People hear this kind of messaging from so many different organizations that it becomes believable.
Hoggan describes highly skilled messaging on the part of The Big Interestsmessaging that affects the views of the public at large. What is our reaction in the progressive world? Simple! We go on our web sites and tell each other how stupid those voters must be! Their limbic brains must not work right! Theyre just a gang redneck racists! Meanwhile, we do next to nothing to generate message machines which might help voters see past such deceptions. Instead, we send our millionaire broadcasters onto Tv to aim dick jokes at the average voters who get conned by these sophisticated industry players. Our leaders go on Hardball and lick the boots of a man who busted his keister, for years, to put us all in this stew.
Question: Who are the dumb ones in that syndrome? The Interests, or us progressives?
Was Hoggan right on all points? We dont know. But lets consider two recent events in our evolving political wars:
First point to ponder: Consider one result in a Gallup survey about last weeks post-health care unpleasantness. Gallups Lydia Saad summarizes the surveys finding:
This is just one (slightly unconventional) survey question; the question was asked in only one survey. And any single survey result can of course be wrong or misleading. But by a small measure, Gallups respondents were slightly more inclined to blame Democrats for last weeks unpleasantness, as opposed to conservative talkers or Republican pols. Digby reviews the finding here; she and her many commenters are surprised, and upset, by this result. Many of her commenters insist the survey must be no good, that the survey result must be wrong.
Were not sure why. That said, our side is constantly surprised and dismayed by survey/poll results of this type. Were endlessly amazed at the views of the American electorate. When this pattern occurs again and again, we must ask an obvious question: Just how smart are we about politics? Who are the real dumb bunnies in these familiar transactions?
Second point to ponder: In this post, Digby discusses Pam Stouts appearance on the Letterman show. (She also posts tape of the full interview.) Again, we think Stouts interview is well worth watching, although its obviously of limited use in understanding the Tea Party movement. (Its a very limited interview, and Stout is only one person.) Digbys reactions are worth considering tooalthough here too, she seems amazed by what she sees on the tape:
Digby is amazed by Stout; in turn, were amazed by Digby. Plainly, Beck has made a lot of people think; if you watch his town hall sessions, it is perfectly clear that these people arent all knuckle-dragging lunatics. We have a very different reaction to Beck around here, but many people have reacted to Beck in the way Stout describes. It speaks poorly of our own sophistication when were still blown away by this factwhen were endlessly stunned and amazed by the reactions of Americans voters. And by the wayDigby goes directly to condescension, and misstatement, in her assessment of Stout. Does Stout live in the town known for its proximity to Ruby Ridge and the Aryan Nations compound? If you want to frame it that way, thats where Stout livesnow. But as the interview and the earlier New York Times profile noted, Stout seems to have lived in California for much of her life. (She lived in England until age 11.) In the opening paragraph of David Barstows profile of the Tea Party movement, this is the way he described some of what Stout apparently did in the Golden State:
Listening to what Stout told Letterman, we got the impression that she may have drawn some conservative lessons from her years of work with struggling families. Some people who work with struggling families come away with the view that some such families arent struggling as hard as they ought to. Other people come away with sympathy for the hurdles these families face. There are elements of truth in both reactions; in our societys bumper-sticker politics, people who tilt in the second direction are liberals, while conservatives tilt in the first direction. We would have liked to hear Letterman ask Stout more about these experiences, and about the lessons she drew from them. But Digby goes straight to condescension and misstatement, as we liberals love to do when confronted with people who dont see things in the unerring way we do. In our view, Stout said some fairly dumb things to Lettermanabout letting GM go under, for instance. But when liberals are shocked and amazed by the views of the Stoutswhen we insist on misstating their background, on building cartoonsthen we are the dumb bunnies here.
In this later post, Digby has moved to full-tilt derision. Stout is now described as our sweet little teabagger lady, and all is right again with the world. All except those Gallup resultsresults which follow our insults and condescension much as day follows night.
For better or worse, this country is full of people like Stoutand such people vote. Often, these people arent all that sharpbut then, we arent all that sharp either. And yes, these people do get conned by the very, very carefully thought-out public relations tactics described by Hoggan.
Hoggan described some very savvy players in our political warfare. On our side, those players are met by some very dumb bunniesdumb bunnies who look much like us.
Final note on our sides consummate dumbness, on the way we practice to lose:
Last night, Sean Hannity played this tape of Rep. Charlie Rangel. In fact, he played it several times:
That sounds like odd rhetoric coming from Rangel, a sensible, savvy man. Given his current troubles with the Ethics Committee, it may be that Rangel is trying to stoke his standing with the black community. But do you know how monumentally dumb it is to make such statements about the way a large group of mostly-white demonstrators looked? Guess what, losers? When people like Rangel make statements like that, many people who arent Tea Party-inclined feel he has just described them.
Hannity got major mileage from that tape last night; most likely, hell use it again. In a nation which isnt made up of liberal bloggers, do you know how dumb it is, as a matter of politics, to offer statements like that? How dumb it is on the merits?
Obviously not! On our side, we are constantly amazed by the reactions of the electorate. This leads us to a final question:
Tell the truth. Lets be real. When it comes to the simplest political judgments, is anyone dumber than we are? Those savvy Big Interests cheer and applaud when we liberals say things like that. Their tasks become much, much easier.
Do you doubt that? After our week of cavorting and playing with race, just take a look at that Gallup resultwhich of course is phony and wrong and cant be true, as Digbys sage comnmenters said.